tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1023809150725835717.post434969334931562878..comments2023-11-05T01:05:38.453-08:00Comments on chespeak: Lalgarh: Why Do People Fight the Armed Forces of the State?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08922847649122074587noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1023809150725835717.post-75828858149612418532009-06-22T22:47:28.821-07:002009-06-22T22:47:28.821-07:00K Satchidanandan writes in an email:
There was a ...K Satchidanandan writes in an email:<br /><br />There was a time when I believed that social change can be brought about by violence, ( a la Lenin and Mao)I no more do, and do not mind if it is called a compromise or surrender of sorts.What the recent history has taught us is that the changes brought about by violence will need more violence to sustain it and revolutionary violence easily turns into State violence once the revolutionaries win- I do not mean violence against 'class enemies' alone, violence aganst the people. Stalinist State is the beste xam[pkle, more communists, and ordinary people were killeed during his regime than bourgeiosie, aall in the name of conspiracy against the State where the State meant the Dictator.So my reasons are practical, not merely ethical or philosophical though I do not deny these dimensions.<br />But this interrogation of violence as a strategy for social transformation does not prevent me at all from understanding situations of violence in society. Generally people resort to it painfully as the last strategy when the State has never heeded to their demands and left them lonely, desperate, helpless.This is precisely what has happened in many parts of India, esp. with regard to the tribal rights.The Maoists have just captured the space left vacant by the existing left.The existing left has to seriously rethink its tribal policies all over India where they have some power or influence, includng of course in Kerala.<br /> <br />Again I fail to understand why people's violence is condemned unilaterally when the State brutality, which in the first place gave rise to this counter-violence, is not condemned.This violence of the State leading to the loss of habitat for lakhs of people across the country is directly related to the resource mobilisation for strengthening the market economy and reinforcing globalisation. Orissa is just one example.Unless we ask the question "Whose Development "all this development rhetoric by Congress and the existing Left( sorry for using this trem, I have ever had another real Left in my dreams)is going to help only the rich and the already powerful and help promote egalitarianism.The existing Left does not seem to have any clear alternative, democratic and egalitarian idea of development, so it gets tagged on to the idea in its existing , dangerous connotations.<br /><br />Satchi.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08922847649122074587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1023809150725835717.post-84536513682590763742009-06-22T22:46:02.397-07:002009-06-22T22:46:02.397-07:00Ajit Sahi replies in an email:
Right, Dr. Aravin...Ajit Sahi replies in an email: <br /><br />Right, Dr. Aravindan. So the police have no control. But they go out in groups, kill innocent people, burn villages, and come back to their stations. The thing is, the police have zero control over law and order. Especially in Chhattisgarh, the Salwa Judum has emerged as a deadly entity with zero accountability.<br /><br />So, to sum up: the police cannot police areas under the sway of the Naxals hence they have no control. But they repress innocent villagers, because Naxals aren't everywhere.<br /><br />Sorry, I hadn't made that clear.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08922847649122074587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1023809150725835717.post-23935977528940839272009-06-22T22:45:00.103-07:002009-06-22T22:45:00.103-07:00Dr K P Aravindan writes in an email:
Dear Ajit
I ...Dr K P Aravindan writes in an email:<br /><br />Dear Ajit<br />I don't fully understand you. On the one hand you say the police have<br />absolutely no control. On the other you say there is absolute police<br />repression. A bit confusing.<br />To me it is just violence and counter violence feeding on each other.<br /><br />KPAAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08922847649122074587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1023809150725835717.post-9926379662865976122009-06-22T22:43:42.573-07:002009-06-22T22:43:42.573-07:00Thanks dear Ajit Sahi, for your comments.
I agr...Thanks dear Ajit Sahi, for your comments. <br /> <br />I agree with you entirely. And I admire you as one of the very few Indian journalists who have dared to go and see what is happening out there in the vast Indian hinterland. Some time ago I had forwarded one of your reports from Chattisgarh on the violence there on to this forum but no one had taken note. Good, now some people seem to take a second look why they are making a 'disturbance...'<br /><br />N P ChekkuttyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08922847649122074587noreply@blogger.com